Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Did she really mean to say that?

There were just three items on Tuesday's agenda at the special borough council meeting and it still took two-and-a-half hours to complete.

But as a packed council chambers looked on as the borough's governing body turned down a request from the developer of the Turkey Hill Experience for a loan of $150,000; hired a third part-time code enforceent officer and approved a contract for the purchase of 14 acres of land between the two bridges, it was a comment from Council President Mary Wickenheiser that had many in attendance saying "what!"
Vern Detz, a former member of the council, was questioning the request from Bill Roberts about his request for the borough to put $150,000 back into the THE (Turkey Hill Experience) project, he remarked about those in attendance, mostly cabin owners from along the Susquehanna River.
Detz told those at the meeting they need to keep attending the meetings.
"The taxpayers of this borough no longer trust borough council," Detz said.
Wickenheiser responded, "I agree with you on that statement."
So, was she agreeing with Detz that she liked the number of people attending the meeting or she doesn't trust the other members of the council? Hopefully, she met she was happy to see people attending the meeting.

30 comments:

Anonymous said...

perhaps she was agreeing with Detz's statement?

Anonymous said...

I personally heard that reponse from our Council President. The leadership of this Council is just enbarrassing. Including Wickenheiser there should be some members resigning promptly. As the Boro Council leader, Wickenheiser took shots at another Borough enity, the School Board.This shows total weakness on her part.Defending spending and then pointing blame on the School board is a cover up. To be 5 million dollars in debt and on the verge of borrowing another 6-10 million is shocking. Columbia taxpayers need to march on both entities and protest.

Anonymous said...

If you can figure out what she is talking about, let her know.She is clueless.

Sara said...

My husband and I have lived here for 8 years and I do not get to involved with community government issues, (except to complain about our taxes and as an side note, that is why we are probably going to have move) but, I hear the scully wag around town and read it now on barry's blog, my question is I do not recall when there has been a boro council that has received favorable comments, I think it might be a thankless job, I certainly would not want it, so I choose not to complain about them.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a big fan of Sandy Duncan but at least she could run a Council meeting.It's a shame the way these meetings are run because it takes away from the good that some Council members do.

Anonymous said...

At this special Council meeting a question was asked about the closing of the Borough operations on Wednsday at noon. Absoluty no comment from the seven members at the table.And they wonder why we don't trust them.I understand it's for the Borough having a party at Tastes-of-styles on locost st. What's the ocation? Celebrating the five millon debt, the river park, the market house or what? Someone help me please.

Anonymous said...

isn't it amazing? a taxpayer asks a question and can't get an answer. what a joke. c'mon columbia, let's get together and oust em all !

Anonymous said...

The party platters going into the boro office via Jeff Helm were very big and tasty looking. I worked through my lunch today.

Anonymous said...

i posted comments, where are they? we need to take back our town, this council is good at spending more taxpayer money and upping our $ 5 MILLION DOLLAR DEBT !!!!!! helloooooo is anybody home????

Anonymous said...

The party was actually for selling the 3rd & Linden property which is why no-one on Council wanted to answer the question. What a joke!

Let's not just blame Council for this mess, don't forget about Borough manager Meiskey and Sheriff Lutz who Council takes their direction from. Hellam was smart enough to get rid of Meiskey, Columbia is not.

Just watch who answers a majority of the questions a citizen ask, rarely is it a member of Council, except for Mary W. They're all afraid of being corrected by Meiskey or Lutz.

Anonymous said...

exactly! we ALL know who runs the council;-norm and leo, how pathetic. how can we as taxpayers keep allowing this crap-we need to DEMAND answers and get rid of ALL the dead weight

Anonymous said...

Exactly , next election we need to vote these dead heads OUT and hold them responsible for this disaster we call a boro.A totally new council can end norm and the mayors little reign of doom.

Anonymous said...

it can't happen soon enough, in the meantime, they continue to drag us all down further. and wrack our debt up higher and higher.it's time to take a stand! man up all! let's run norm, leo and mary pelosi out of town-for good! we as taxpayers can and need to make it happen!!! unite.

Anonymous said...

it's just not right-boro council members were voted to serve and represent the taxpayers of this town. WHY does Norm and Leo run the show? why does Norm and Leo answer all the questions? where is the back bone of these elected officials? don't you know, you HAVE the power to STOP all this nonsense-YOU ARE THE BOSSES-You's need to stick together and tell Norm and the Mayor that You's are NOT putting up with any more of this crap. It's over !!!!

Anonymous said...

i agree. the time HAS come. the taxpaying citizens of this town need to get involved, attend meetings, ASK QUESTIONS, demand ANSWERS,
TOGETHER WE CAN DO IT - WE CAN TAKE BACK OUR TOWN! WE live on a budget, the boro management must to-did you hear at the June 14 council meeting that MANAGEMENT APPROVED ANOTHER RAISE FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!!! can you believe it???? the ba--s.. there are hundreds or even thousands out of work and these CLOWNS - management - give themselves a raise.

Anonymous said...

next election hell-we need to start NOW!
WE NEED TO MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING THEY SAY AND DO. THEY WORK FOR US-THE TAXPAYERS

Anonymous said...

All of this talk about getting rid of Norm and Leo and taking back the town!, what a freaking joke! - did you ever hear about grass roots efforts and working from the ground up? Why don't you save the energy of your words and go out and sweep the litter off the back alley's every day for a year and gain some respect and votes from the townsfolk! If you only knew half of the crap that these good people put up with on a weekly basis you would change the name of the town to NorLeoHiser USA! They are the ELECTED OFFICIALS and they didn't exactly take the town!!

pk

Anonymous said...

do you all know that when mary's term is over, she's not running again??? she got what she wanted. the river park. wow. with the boat ramp that is flat instead of vertical-what the hell? the layout of it all is RIDICULOUS, need i say more

Anonymous said...

yes, they are elected-norm is not elected. they ALL are running this town into a ghost town-do you see people flocking to move here ? NO. people are moving OUT-they CAN"T afford to live here, both the municipal and the school taxes GO UP EVERY YEAR !!!!!! i don't know about you, i haven't had a raise for a long time, but i'm not complaining, i do have a job and i do my job

Anonymous said...

the elected officials are NOT doing what the majority of the taxpayers expect or want-they're doing what NORM and LEO want. that's sooooo wrong. i love this saying "what goes around comes around"

Anonymous said...

I agree! The elected council are NOT LISTENING TO THE MAJORITY OF US TAXPAYERS ! They MUST take control and say NO to all the bull---- of NOrm and Leo. They are supposed to control Norm and Leo NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND ! It's time to take a stand and DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THIS BORO !! Oust these 2 lunatics be3fore it's TOO late !

Anonymous said...

how long do you think we can hold on? we are all on the way out-because norm, leo and council have run this town into the ground and it will NEVER recover. yet, they want to spend hundreds and thousands and millions of dollars to fix something that CAN NOT BE FIXED. what, it's not enough that this small town is already almost $ 5 MILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT AND NORM AND LEO AND COUNCIL KEEP ADDING TO IT

Anonymous said...

Observations, this blog is a haven for those who don't know what they are talking about, like to see their negative comments in print and sound off. Why all the negativity and opinions, do some research and report facts not opinions. Reduce the negativity, report facts and offer solutions, be willing to volunteer. Also consider running for public office as you believe your "opinions" are the only ones that count. Your negativity needs to stop, be positive and offer solutions that you are willing to help implement

John Neidig said...

Here is a FACT - This town is going to be 5 million + in debt under the watch of norm ,the mayor,boro council. FACT!!!. SOLUUTION - Remove them all from thier positions. While I agree complaints to all involved are seemingly falling upon deaf ears, vigilance at council meetings are a MUST. ACCOUNTABILITY is a MUST.

Anonymous said...

amen, halleluyeh !! i agree 1,000 percent !!!
now, let's get all these baby boomers interested in having a say in how this boro is run. oust norm, leo and mary like YESTERDAY

Anonymous said...

Mr Neigid, you seem to have all the FACTS, why don't you consider being a volunteer in the community or run for public office. I'm sure with your insight improvements would occur.

John Neidig said...

I plan on it.

ws said...

Mr Neigid, you state "accountability is a must" I guess this was in response to council members being accountable, do you not agree as persons we also need to be held accountable regardless if we hold an office or not?

John Neidig said...

Well SW, I cant make any private citizen be held accountable for whatever they do in their private lives.That is up to them , Im talking about the elected persons of this boro and norman.One day we shall all be held accountable for our actions on a personal level.

Anonymous said...

attend monthly council meetings - you may be amazed with what you see, what you hear and what you learn and how they lie right to your face...